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July 18, 2006

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becky

Wow......'liked' this.....and so how do we live focused on Him.....so those that don't know...aren't completely undone?? Thanks...

Joe Kennedy

A friend recently let me in on a speech by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. His Vietnam speech (or one of them, anyway) from NYC. http://www.drmartinlutherkingjr.com/beyondvietnam.htm

Check it out.

Lu

Joe, okay I don't get it. What is your point? I read the speech -- at which at times I found rather offensive because my dad fought in Vietnam and despite the losses we incurred I still feel that we were right to be there. To at least try to help those oppressed by the Chinese-led Vietcong. It was the government's decision to make it a "police action" effectively tying the hands of our troops that cost us the most lives. Was it a winnable war? No. But morally I believe we ought to have been there or helped the resistence in some way.

I did find one quote that I liked, but I would remove "nonviolence" from it, because I believe there were always be violence in the world and that a nation or a people must stand against what they believe is wrong, and be willing to do so with violence if necessary. Anyway, that quote is: "Here is the true meaning and value of compassion and nonviolence, when it helps us to see the enemy's point of view, to hear his questions, to know his assessment of ourselves. For from his view we may indeed see the basic weaknesses of our own condition, and if we are mature, we may learn and grow and profit from the wisdom of the brothers who are called the opposition."

At any rate, I muse be missing something.... How do you see it fitting into my little rant (because it's all about me, you know!)? Because I don't.

Lu

Becky -- I've been asking myself the same question. I'm attempting to write a post about it now... do you have any ideas?

Joe Kennedy

Toward the end, he starts talking about true revolution.

A true revolution of values will soon cause us to question the fairness and justice of many of our past and present policies. ... True compassion is more than flinging a coin to a beggar. It comes to see that an edifice which produces beggars needs restructuring.

A true revolution of values will soon look uneasily on the glaring contrast of poverty and wealth. With righteous indignation, it will look across the seas and see individual capitalists of the West investing huge sums of money in Asia, Africa, and South America, only to take the profits out with no concern for the social betterment of the countries, and say, "This is not just." It will look at our alliance with the landed gentry of South America and say, "This is not just." The Western arrogance of feeling that it has everything to teach others and nothing to learn from them is not just. A true revolution of values will lay hand on the world order and say of war, "This way of settling differences is not just." This business of burning human beings with napalm, of filling our nation's homes with orphans and widows, of injecting poisonous drugs of hate into the veins of peoples normally humane, of sending men home from dark and bloody battlefields physically handicapped and psychologically deranged, cannot be reconciled with wisdom, justice, and love. A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual death.

This call for a worldwide fellowship that lifts neighborly concern beyond one's tribe, race, class, and nation is in reality a call for an all-embracing and unconditional love for all mankind. This oft misunderstood, this oft misinterpreted concept, so readily dismissed by the Nietzsches of the world as a weak and cowardly force, has now become an absolute necessity for the survival of man. When I speak of love I am not speaking of some sentimental and weak response. I'm not speaking of that force which is just emotional bosh. I am speaking of that force which all of the great religions have seen as the supreme unifying principle of life. Love is somehow the key that unlocks the door which leads to ultimate reality.

Now, of course, we leave out the universalist part, but you start to get the point. You were talking about the poor, the needy, the ones who are about to kick us in the butt. But if we were more about this unconditional love that King is talking about, it wouldn't be so. I think his statements about love and using our wealth and power for the good of others is something we should always remember. That's the part that I was most interested in you reading. The rest of it, I read, and get a new perspective on Vietnam (I wasn't there, I wasn't near it, but my dad was there for 30 days- he tried to volunteer but they kept sending him to other places). But what I wanted to point toward were his statements toward the end about love and the world.

becky

No....just alot of questions.....waiting for your take on it!

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